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Hey Chris,

I took a look at your site.  Very nice!  You sure have a lot of great information there.  Convinced me I almost certainly have a Palmer. I’ve attached several photos.

I spent my freshman & sophomore years at Rutgers (Sept 1970- May 1972) and bought the cue from one of the 2 best players who used to play in the pool room in the student union there.  I don’t know his name, probably didn’t know it even then, since he was way out of my league, skill-wise.  He was a 9 ball player, always had money on his games.  If I remember correctly he sold me the stick because he lost big and needed the dough.  After I bought it I never saw him again.  I don’t really remember when I bought it exactly, but it would have been in the later part of my stay there, since I remember playing a lot more pool as a sophomore. I’ve had the cue for the 33-34 years since then, but quit playing when I graduated from college.  I started playing again a few months ago and use the stick regularly.  It’s been kept inside my home, in a closet the entire time.  
I have the case I bought with it, just a cheap vinyl job without any pockets or pouches or anything. I never saw any other case.  When I bought the cue it had a leather wrap glued over top of the (probably Dacron) wrap you see in the photos.  The job was poorly done and made the cue look bad so I got it cheap, $25 if I remember correctly.  Anyway, I removed the leather (or vinyl, I’m not sure now) and it came off relatively easily, without damaging anything underneath except for some discoloration of the wrapping.

The stick is very heavy, 23 oz.  There are 5 slightly raised circles barely visible, and slightly feelable, under the top area of the wrap.  My guess is that they are lead weights, added to the stick to make it so heavy.  In the last two photos you might be able to see them, but it’s hard to get the angle of the light right so they show up.  There are four lined up on the same axis near the top of the wrap, and one more at 90 degrees to them, below them.  There may be more but that’s all I can see.  I have no idea as to whether they were done at the factory or were modifications done afterwards.  If the wrapping were removed there might be additional clues.

I have never removed the wrapping or had any work done to it, but it could benefit from refinishing and certainly from rewrapping.  It should probably also have the weights removed and the holes plugged too, though I’ve always liked the heft.  The black ferrules were on the stick when I bought it, but I don’t know if they’re original.  I don’t even know how long the cue was owned, or by how
The handle is 28 ½“ from the flat part of the joint to the bottom of the cap .  Add another ¼” for the black rubber bumper.  The two shafts are 27” and 27 7/8“ from the flat part of the joint to the top of the ferrule, not including the tip.  Other players cues seem to be an inch longer than my cue with the longer shaft.  Were cues shorter in the late 60’s?

Thanks for your taking the time to answer my questions, I appreciate it. 


John


December 1, 2005 John  writes...
(edited from several e-mails)




John,

I knew it wasn't a Palmer in seconds, except for the top shaft (which I am almost certain is).

Since you acquired he cue in about 1972, and Rutgers is in New Jersey,  I figured it was made in the 1960's on the East Coast. My first thought was it was a Burton Spain forearm. He used those colors and it looks like a Burton Spain full splice.  I began thinking about the cue makers who used Spain. Paradise maybe? Maybe one of the obscure New Jersey makers like Karl Meyer or Mike Fudunka?

Finally, dumbfounded by the wrap, the bumper, the black ferrules, and thick joint rings, I took a close look at the joint.  Bingo!

I went straight to the catalog to find out your cue is an Adam R/A-12 "Eldorado". This is from the very first Adam catalog from 1970. Adam is the company founded in Japan by David Forman and joined by Richard Helmstetter  who also later imported parts to Palmer. It's a cue that's often thought to be a Palmer. The sharp joint screw is a feature found on the earliest cues.

It's may not be a Palmer but that doesn't mean it isn't a "keeper". Adam cues are quality construction and this is a very early First Catalog example. Plus I bet there's a nice Brazilian Rosewood handle under all that, which is a rare wood banned for U.S. import since 1992.

There have been a lot of modifications to the cue. I suspect you are correct that weight was addd to the handle and the cue was re-wrapped by an amateur. I also think the ferrules were cut off tenon and all and new ones installed, resulting in shorter shafts. There was probably no rubber piece on the cue butt originally.

My advice is to ship it to Scott Sherbine at Proficient. It will look like a new cue when you get it back!


all the best,

Chris
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